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Negotiating HELOCs on a Short Sale.

Hi folks. If you negotiate Short Sales for a living then you know that a HELOC ( Home Equity Line of Credit) can be a real pain in the rear end. They usually want more money than what the 1st lien is willing to give them and they want the Borrower (Seller) to participate in their loss by making a cash contribution and/or signing a promissory note.

 

The Borrower needs to know this at time of listing. As a Short Sale listing agent you need to ask them at time of listing if their 2nd lien is a purchase money mortgage or is it a cash out equity line. If it was a cash out then the next question is; "Are you willing to participate in the loss?" If they answer "No" then there may be an issue. 

Now having said that, the Seller may not be a position to participate in the loss. There could be a true financial hardship and they just don't have the means to bring cash or pay off a promissory note. If this is the case then you need to let them know that you will do your best but that there are no guarantees that the 2nd will cooperate. The 2nd may still remove the lien (mortgage) so the Short Sale can close but they will more than likely not remove the obligation for the Borrower to pay (note) without some kind of participation.

This may suck for your Seller but look at it from the lender's perspective. The Seller pulled cash out of his home and more than likely spent the money on consumer goods. The lenders know this. Should they completely forgive the debt when the borrower has a paid for Hummer sitting in the driveway? Would you? I don't think so.

So what can you do? If the Seller has the means then they should just participate in the loss. They spent the money so now give some of it back. Chances are they can settle for 20-30 cents on the dollar. That's a darn good deal. Take it and move on.

If your Seller does not have the means......Negotiate. Negotiate hard. Prove to the lender that the Borrower does not have the cash or the income to participate in the loss. Then show the lender where the "equity money" went. If it was used to pay medical bills and put food on the table then show this to the lender. It's my experience that most of the folks I help did NOT squander the money. They used it to either live on or they put it back into the property. The lender needs to know this. Lay it out and make the case.

The most important thing to remember is that it is the lender's negotiator's job to limit the loss as much as they can. They are paid negotiators and some are very good at what they do. Are you? If not then maybe you should not be handling Short Sales.

Your Sellers are depending on you. Please don't let them down. What say you?


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I sent out a listing agreement a couple of weeks ago for a Destin Florida condo. This was a Bank of America short sale, and no payments have been made for 9 months. I never received the listing paperwork back, so just wrote it off.Today I got a call from “Clyde”, who said he was a licensed real estate agent in the sellers' home state of Georgia and knew them personally. He was helping the sellers with a short sale of their primary residence. Clyde said the sellers still wanted me to list the property, but that Clyde would go ahead and negotiate the short sale for them. He also said he himself would be the buyer, but would line up another “investor” to do a property flip.(OK, I don’t want any part of this, I thought. Help me off the phone.)“Clyde, I negotiate my own short sales, so I cannot help you with that arrangement”, I told him. He reiterated I would not have to do anything but list the property, and he would take care of the rest, even though he was not licensed in Florida. “No thank you, sorry, I am not interested” I restated, and I wished him luck.“Why not get involved?” you might be thinking. After all, I could save hours of calls, emails, negotiating, stress and have a built-in buyer. Well, one reason is I want to be sure my short sale listing closes. I know I have a 90% chance or greater of getting an approval if I handle it personally. And I don’t know Clyde.But the biggest reason is, I don’t want to be involved in a short sale flip, even as just “the listing agent”. Bank of America’s approval letter states “There are to be no transfers of property within 30 days of closing”. Other lenders state there are to be “no assignments” by buyer to other parties. To me, that means, no flipping! I am not going to get involved. Why ever risk getting near a deal like this? Not me.So, I lost a listing today. But you know what? I really didn’t want it.It's Wendy!Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR Rulnick Realty, Inc.Destin FL
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Why I Negotiate My Own Short Sales

In the last couple of days I've been approached by two Destin FL sellers who wish to do Short Sales. After explaining the Short Sale process, I explained what items I would need. When I got to "financial worksheet" etc. I was stopped in my tracks. These sellers told me that their attorney said not to turn over any information, that he would be handling the short sale negotiations. I immediately told the sellers that I will only take the listing if I handle the entire transaction including bank negotiations. Why?To take on a listing in this market, and any market, involves taking a risk. That is, a substantial business investment covering the cost "doing" business, which includes time, advertising, payroll, insurance, licensing, internet, phone, rent, etc. etc.. In a normal market, the calculated risk of the business investment is that the listing will most likely sell, and the burden of expenses will reimbursed, plus some business profit. With a Short Sale, the risk is much higher. Why? The Short Sale lender may not approve the sale. And the time investment to reap a return may be five times longer than a normal sale, reducing any profit if the sale is approved.To lessen the key business risk of an unapproved Short Sale-- both for me and my seller, I must control the Short Sale from start to finish. Why? Because I can:Assemble excellent lender packages personally reviewed by meDirectly and immediately respond to negotiators' calls and emailsImmediately provide well-written market narratives and critical analyses proving priceEnsure that appraisers and bank BPO agents understand the subject property's challengesImmediately provide additional documentation required by the lenderKeep the parties well-informed and in the dealDocument all tasks in detail for transaction-saving referenceProvide creative solutions to negotiators' demands such as promissory notes and cash contributionsUse twenty years of negotiations skills to ensure successCan a third party do all this? Perhaps. But I know I can. If I pass along the critical Short Sale negotiation stage to a third party, my company's business success is entrusted to others, as is my seller's chance of approval.It's Wendy!Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR Rulnick Realty, Inc.Destin FL real estateShort Sale Pre Foreclosure Help.Call toll-free 1-877-ITS-WNDY (1-877-487-9639) or local 850-650-7883 ext 204Email itswendy@rulnickrealty.comWendy Rulnick specializes in real estate sales, short sales, traditional sales on Emerald Coast of Florida: Destin Florida real estate, Santa Rosa Beach, Fort Walton Beach, Niceville, Bluewater Bay, Navarre, Seagrove Beach, Watercolor, Sandestin, Seaside, Dune Allen, Blue Mountain Beach, Freeport, Rosemary Beach, Mary Esther, Shalimar, Eglin AFB, Hurlburt Field. Wendy Rulnick, Broker and Realtor, has been selling real estate for almost 20 years. She has won numerous awards, including the coveted ADDY for advertising design. An expert marketer of real estate listings, she negotiates successfully to her dients' advantage. She is supported by a team of top buyer specialists. She lists and sells homes, condos and townhomes.All Rights Reserved. *Why I Negotiate My Own Short Sales* Contact Wendy Rulnick regarding Destin Florida real estate and vicinity. Copyright © 2008 by Wendy Rulnick.This site, Wendy Rulnick or Rulnick Realty, Inc. is not providing legal or tax advice. The information provided is for educational and informational purposes only. It is recommended that sellers considering a short sale should consult an independent legal and tax advisor for more information.
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22 Questions to Ask the Short Sale Lender

Are you at a loss for words with the Short Sale lender? Here are some questions to pose when you check in on your Short Sale transaction status. Even if you've asked some of these questions before, you may want to ask them again, and repeat certain questions on each call. Many times, you'll elicit a different answer or discover a problem that may help you get your approval more quickly.1. Have you received our package?2. Is anything missing from our package?3. Has the loan been submitted as a short sale (or "referred" with Countrywide/Bank of America)?4. Has a negotiator been assigned?5. When will a negotiator be assigned?6. How do you spell the negotiator's name?7. What is the negotiator's email address?8. What is the negotiator's direct number, extension or fax number?9. Has an appraisal or broker price opinion been ordered?10. Can you order the appraisal?11. When will the appraisal be ordered?12. Have you received the appraisal back yet?13. Is the appraisal value within range?14. Has the second mortgage been "serviced released"? If so, who is the new servicer?15. Is there MI (mortgage insurance) on the loan?16. Is the loan Fannie Mae, etc?17. Is your company delegated (authority to make decision on approval)?18. Can you read me any notes on the file?19. What was the last action taken on the file?20. Would you email the negotiator for me?21. Would you ring the negotiator for me?22. Would you connect me with the supervisor?It's Wendy!Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR Rulnick Realty, Inc.Destin Florida real estateShort Sale Pre Foreclosure Help.Call toll-free 1-877-ITS-WNDY (1-877-487-9639) or local 850-650-7883 ext 204Email itswendy@rulnickrealty.comWendy Rulnick specializes in real estate sales, short sales, traditional sales on Emerald Coast of Florida: Destin Florida real estate, Santa Rosa Beach, Fort Walton Beach, Niceville, Bluewater Bay, Navarre, Seagrove Beach, Watercolor, Sandestin, Seaside, Dune Allen, Blue Mountain Beach, Crestview, Freeport, Rosemary Beach, Mary Esther, Shalimar, Eglin AFB, Hurlburt Field. Wendy Rulnick, Broker and Realtor, has been selling real estate for 20 years. She has won numerous awards, including the coveted ADDY for advertising design. An expert marketer of real estate listings, she negotiates successfully to her clients' advantage. She is supported by a team of top buyer specialists. She lists and sells homes, condos and townhomes.All Rights Reserved. *22 Questions To Ask The Short Sale Lender* Contact Wendy Rulnick regarding Destin Florida real estate and vicinity. Copyright © 2008-2009 by Wendy Rulnick.This site, Wendy Rulnick or Rulnick Realty, Inc. is not providing legal or tax advice. The information provided is for educational and informational purposes only. It is recommended that sellers considering a short sale should consult an independent legal and tax advisor for more information.
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