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Corporations can be bullies too……

So my question is why is it that agents individually, continue to have to defend their paycheck against investor’s efforts to reduce commissions below the customary 6% and the never ending interference with a contract of which they are not a legal party to? Why is there not some sort of class action lawsuit on behalf of many thousands of agents that would have a ligament claim? Why is there not some sort of collective representation for real estate agent?

I would like to know. Recently I had the 6% total real estate fees cut to 5% with the typical ultimatum and threat to comply or the short sale would be denied. This was after 5 months with a prior offer approved in writing with an approval letter and paying the 6%. This was a bank owned short sale with Chase and no outside investors or MIP. All done by Chase and they simple said oops, sorry we made a mistake agreeing to the 6% on the first offer. We are reducing your fee to 5%.

So where is the collective effort by real estate agents to defend themselves?

Seriously can we not do better then this.

Is there any current collective efforts being made by somebody somewhere?

 

Michael

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Bank of America's Bogus War Against Short Sale Dual Agency

Let me begin with the fact that I have never been a dual agent on a traditional equity sale.  The only sales I have ever “double ended” were short sales.  In fact, I began doing dual agent transactions out of necessity on short sales in order to hang on to buyers and get the transactions closed.  I find that if I can communicate directly with the buyer they are less inclined to walk, and I also find that I am better able to locate a buyer who will be patient enough to wait through the process.  So, I had to consider dual agency to truly help my seller clients who were in financial distress and up against powerful bureaucracies.


12433923070?profile=originalNow apparently, Bank of America has decided that dual agency is “problematic,” and has adopted policies to discourage it, including a substantially lower offer of commission to real estate brokers who work both sides.  For a short time this year, Bank of America even adopted a mandatory addendum prohibiting it -- but they backed away from that pretty quickly and instead adopted policies to create large financial incentives against it.  Further, they dictate that even if the seller or buyer could make up the difference in the negotiated commission (which most can not) they prohibit that as well.  Wow.  



I spoke to a Bank of America negotiator just this week that told me that dual agency was “problematic” and cited the fact that it wasn’t allowed in certain states to support his claim.  Now in that particular instance, they had a full appraisal of the home and accepted the price and major terms of the sale -- the only big problem they had was with the commission.  He categorized their position as “not negotiable.” Another negotiator freely admitted that the commission I negotiated with the seller would be paid in full if two agents were on the file. Wow.



My problem with their stance is that my state (California) has not outlawed dual agency, and I really don’t think Bank of America should be in charge of that decision.  And of course, since they are so large (in fact “too big to fail”) the policy decisions they make are beginning to have de facto legislative effect on the real estate market.  By discouraging dual agency to the point where it is not economically feasible for a smaller or one person brokerage to do it, they are in effect restricting the kind of services I can provide to clients in distress.  And, I feel it interjects Bank of America too far into my client relationships.  



12433923095?profile=originalFurther, I find their policy, dare I say it … hypocritical.  In my area MLS, agents are required to disclose whether they have a “variable rate” of compensation for dual agency, i.e., if you are going to discount your commission when you represent both sides, other agents must have notice of that fact.  I have seen no such disclosure on the many REOs that are listed by Bank of America REO agents.  So, apparently dual agency is not as “problematic” when Bank of America wants to get their own listings sold quickly and off their books.  Wow.  



At the close of my discussion with this particular negotiator, he did try the old  “investor guidelines” routine.  However, because I have run this issue up the chain in Bank of America before, I feel confident in saying that this is coming from Bank of America.  And, I think it is a dangerous and disruptive policy that does further harm to homeowners in financial distress in California and in other states where dual agency is allowable.  The irony for me personally is that bank/servicer inefficiency actually inspired my own decision to begin doing dual agency.  My question now is --  what will Bank of America do next?


And haven’t they done enough already?



Tni LeBlanc is an independent Real Estate Broker, Attorney, Short Sale Agent, Certified HAFA Specialist (CHS), and Certified Distressed Property Expert (CDPE) serving the Santa Maria, Orcutt and Five Cities area of the Central Coast of California.

* Nothing in this article is intended to solicit listings currently under contract with another broker.  This article offers no legal or tax advice and is for information purposes only.  Those considering a short sale are advised to consult with their own attorney for legal advice, and their tax professional for tax advice prior to entering into a short sale listing agreement.  Mint Properties is not associated with the government, and our service is not approved by the government or your lender. Even if you accept this offer and use our service, your lender may not agree to change your loan.

Copyright © 2011 Tni LeBlanc *Bank of America's Bogus War Against Short Sale Dual Agency*
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GMAC say No Commission to licensed Buyer

Got a GMAC short sale approved for a Chandler Home owner  but requested copies of real estates turns out GMAC will not pay commission to a licensed buyer representing him/her self  also no resale for 12 months (no flip ) short sale was nulled and void pending approval by diffident department in loss mit, so everything must be disclose to bank from the start in order to avoid delay of closing, Crazy right maybe not they what to make sure agents are not locking the best deals for their self so way may lose buyer and start over again.
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Just out of curiosity as I was browsing the shortsale deals that have closed in my area. I found that several transaction had the same agent listed as the Listing and Selling Agent. I have not been in this type of situation before so I would like to know if anyone has any feedback on this.Lenders do cut commission as we are all aware in shortsale situations. Some reduce it more than others, depending on the overall numbers shown in Hud1.Common sense dictates that lenders will cut the commission when they see that the Listing Agent is double dipping in the sale. They feel that they have already taken a huge loss and want to stick it to someone else. For those who are involved in representing both sides, what have been your outcome?
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Standing up for your commission!

Fight for your commission. You be surprised at the outcome. The lender has no authority over your listing agreement. They do however have authority over how much of THEIR money they will pay TOWARDS a commission.If you have an agreement with your Seller to pay you x% and the lender will only allow y% then the Seller simply pays the difference UNLESS you decide to let them off the hook. The lender's decision does not alter the listing agreement. Thinking it does....is a myth. Unfortunately it's one that most agents just roll over and accept. Not me.If you are on the Buyer side of the short sale then simply have an agreement (BBA) with the Buyer where he will pay you a minimum commission. That way if the co-broke is reduced the buyer can pay the difference. If the Buyer can get a good deal on the purchase then this should be no issue. If it is....the simply explain you can't show him Short Sales.I had a lender, GMAC, try to reduce my commission recently. They explained to me that it was their policy and there was nothing they could do about it. What I said was:"There are 3 agents being paid out of this x% commission. Why am I being asked to reduce? I did my job and I'm only making a little more than $x,000 on this deal. GMAC needs to get in line with market conditions. Realtors(r) are working our butts off to help GMAC avoid the cost of a foreclosure only to have money taken from us. I won't change it. Who can I talk to that can make that decision?"They left it alone.We are in complete control of our compensation as long as we remember who is paying us and write our commission agreements (BBA or listing) accordingly. And don't just fold when asked to reduce. Stand strong and voice your opinion. They may just agree. If they don't then discuss it with your Seller....after all that is who you have the agreement with.Now having said all this.....I have taken less in the past and I'm sure I will in the future BUT it's a decision made between me and the Seller NOT the Lender.AND.....whatever I get paid......I will fully honor the co-broke being offered in the MLS. It's the fair way to handle business. If you don't have the ability to get paid then I suggest you offer a lower co-broke. One that you know you can honor. Better yet....learn how to negotiate. Isn't that why we get paid? What say you?
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One of the great drawbacks to a broker taking on a short sale listing is the fear and often the reality that the short sale lender will demand a reduction in the broker commissions. This has created all sorts of contraptions to make the broker whole.I have seen contracts that have inflated commissions designed to make the lender reduce it; I have seen deals to have the buyer guarantee the broker commission short fall. There are more and some not yet invented. But this summer a case was decided in Iowa (and reported by the NAR) where the appellate court said the short sale lender could NOT renegotiate the commission and it is worth noting.The case of Stewart v. All States Quality Foods decided May 29th has specific facts but I have seen this type of scenario several times and it is worth noting if you are a short sale broker.In simplistic summary (you can read the case by the link above and it is not too complicated to understand even on a first read!), the broker brought a contract to the lender and in the contract the lender knew that the seller was to get a commission of 10%. The lender said it needed more money and made a counter offer of a specific amount. The broker got that counter offer. Then the lender said it needed to net more and the broker offered to cut its commission to help get part of the way to that number. The lender balked and denied the sale.The broker sued on its contract for the commission based on bringing a buyer ready, willing and able who met the counteroffer price asked by the lender. The legal theory that won was interference with advangeous business releationship - the listing agreement.The key issue here is that the lender actively participated in the transaction by making the counter offer request and it being met. Also important is the knowledge by the lender of the existing listing agreement.In all short sales that we handle we provide a copy of the Exclusive Listing Agreement to the lender, so knowledge in our situations would be met. If the lender makes a counteroffer then the lender is bound to accept it or it has violated at least one legal theory - if you are in Iowa. However the law and doctrines cited by the Iowa appellate court are in comport with many other states caselaw, Florida included.Be aware of the rights and obligations of the parties to a short sale - especially when the lender oversteps its position as a lender and becomes an active participant.Copyright 2009 Richard P. Zaretsky, Esq.Be sure to contact your own attorney for your state laws, and always consult your own attorney on any legal decision you need to make. This article is for information purposes and is not specific advice to any one reader.Richard Zaretsky, Esq., RICHARD P. ZARETSKY P.A. ATTORNEYS AT LAW, 1655 PALM BEACH LAKES BLVD, SUITE 900, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401, PHONE 561 689 6660 RPZ99@Florida-Counsel.com - FLORIDA BAR BOARD CERTIFIED IN REAL ESTATE LAW - We assist Brokers and Sellers with Short Sales and Modifications and Consult with Brokers and Sellers Nationwide! Shortsales@Florida-Counsel.com New Website www.Florida-Counsel.com.See our easy to understand articles at:TABLE OF CONTENTS - SHORT SALE AND LOAN MODIFICATION ARTICLES
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