Hi Folks. Recently I have had two Buyers balk at providing mepersonal info I need if they want to purchase a Bank of America ShortSale. I really do understand where they coming from but....most of thebig lenders including Bank of America and GMAC are now running most oftheir short sales through http://www.Equator.com.

Supposedly the Equator system will help to shorten the time involved withgetting these Short Sales approved. From what I'm hearing Bank ofAmerica is giving approvals in 60-90 days as opposed to the 6-9 monthsthey were taking. That's a good thing.

TheEquator system is asking for some personal Buyer info. Iassume this is to make sure transactions are "arms length". If theBuyers want to purchase a Bank of America Short Sale then we have toenter the data.

The reality is it's less data than what the closing agent willwant and far less than they would have to provide if gettingfinancing. What Equator is requiring is simply:

  • Date of birth
  • The first 5 digits of their social security number.
  • The Buyer's address.

That's all we need. No big deal. Of course the Buyers always have the option ofjust not buying a Bank of America Short Sale. I just hate to see themmiss out on a good deal over something so minor. What say you?


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  • So, do the "0's" work. I absolutely dread having to ask people for this information because I know that I wouldn't want to provide it myself. It's a bit intrusive.
  • Yes, Karen, agreed. It's on my SSA. Of course BofA is "entitled to the info".

    I don't think this is related to bureau pulls, btw. I think BofA can only pull a bureau for the Seller, not the Buyer. Need permissable purpose plus permission, by FCRA, and I'm pretty sure they only have that for the borrower, meaning Seller.

    More likely for fraud detection, to verify bona fide buyer, I think.

    Soft pull, hard pull, all the same, I think.

    Just means that the inquiry is posted by the bureau as an "account review", not "credit application", hence does not enter into FICO's score calculations.
  • I have entered 0's in for the social security and made up phone numbers for buyers. However, when B of A has gotten to the soft credit pull, it takes them longer to complete their tasks. Now, I tell buyers agents ahead of time and if they want to purchase the property, then they will give me that information. I also talk with the buyers lender and let them know as well.
  • I have heard that BoA is requiring this information to do a soft pull on a buyers credit, before they accept the offer. I'm a buyer on a s/s (or at least I made an offer 8/09 and am still waiting to hear if I'm a buyer) and I did give that information before I found out what it was for. It would have been nice to know why they needed it, I just assumed it was to link us somehow to the offer or to possibly give us access to information on how the short sale was progressing.
  • I don't belive BOA or Equator is entitled to the info you cite. Just insert "0"'s in where the number are supposed to go. Don;t think you will hear anymore about it from them. This is stuff left over from the REO format where the bank is the direct seller. Not their business in a short sale as far as I am concerned.
  • Gee, these are the questions I need answered from my sellers not buyers. I see it is BOA yet please explain to me why? What does Arm's Length have to do with it; if related they don't have to be livng together, or in the same state or SS #s were not issued at the same time? I'm confused? z
  • I agree; everywhere you turn, you are asked for personal info; to do any harm with only few pf SS#, one needs access to full blown data pools. So the reward (buying a good deal) vs. potenial damage (ID theft, etc) is, in my mind, a non issue
  • I say, they didn't need the info before, why do they need it now. And what's the deal with needing the first 5 digits? What good does that do?

    Yes that is less info than the buyer would need to give at closing and for financing, but those entities have a business relationship with those parties and a certain level of trust. We're asking them to give us all the info someone would need to steal their identity and send it over the internet, through a third parties system, into the hands of who knows how many people at the SS bank to which they have no direct business with. I understand the apprehension.

    I agree with you though that they always have the option to not buy a BOA Short sale. If it's a good enough deal, the information shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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