Reverse Mortgage Short Sales


Reverse Mortgage Short Sales

If you have a client that has done a reverse mortgage and now needs to short sale, this is the group

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Reverse Mortgage HUD fees

Started by Joanne Finochio. Last reply by Becky Martin Jan 18, 2013. 8 Replies

I sent my final HUD in for approval and settlement attorneys fees were removed as well as other fees.  Does anyone know what fees are acceptable? Continue

Reverse Mortgage Short Sales

Started by Mori Langshaw Sr. Last reply by Bill Garrett May 24, 2011. 4 Replies

Has anyone done a short sale where there was a reverse mortgage. I understand that the loan docs are written completely different for these. Advice?

Not yet?

Started by John Treadwell Jun 14, 2010. 0 Replies

I would like to know how that works too  anyone got any info  ,or even maybe were a family member is trying to keep the home ,how would short sale work now?

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Comment by Jimmy Esqueda on July 26, 2016 at 1:12pm

How long does it take for NOVAD to get an approval?  They ordered an appraisal as soon as I submitted a contract.  Appraisal came in high and buyers reluctantly raised their sales price.  I submitted the price addendum on 6/7/16.  My contact there seemed to be very helpful but the last time I heard from her was 6/14/16 stating she would follow up on approval.  Haven't heard from her since after numerous follow ups.  Two others have been copied on these emails including a supervisor.  Have also left voicemails to all three.  Any suggestions?

Comment by Kathy Fuhriman on May 9, 2016 at 10:59am

Does anyone know who to contact at the HUD-FHA loss mitigation department?  The owners took out a Reverse Mortgage on the home in 1999 and have both since passed away.  The house has sat vacant for at least 4 years now and the last owner of record passed on 2 yrs ago.  I have had several buyers or looky loos ask about the status of the home over the last couple of years so I am trying to find out who to contact about it.  Any assistance would be appreciated. I do have the HUD case number. The mortgage was originated by Zions then insured by HUD and assigned to MERS.

Comment by Brett Goldsmith on May 9, 2016 at 8:52am

@jimmy From my experience they likely will not pay out any commission especially if she is representing herself. If she was only representing her husband, they could very well still not pay out commission to that side.

Comment by Jimmy Esqueda on May 9, 2016 at 8:33am

I'm working with NOVAD on submitting an offer that came in over the weekend however the selling agent is representing herself and her husband.  How would HUD respond to this?  Would they even pay the selling agent a commission?

Comment by Amy Golden on February 18, 2014 at 9:54am

Can anyone help me? I'm slowly losing my mind over a Champion transaction! They are the WORST EVER! It's been in the works since Oct 2012, approved back in July 2013. There was about $35K in credit card liens on title, so we couldn't close on time. I worked for 3 months to get that $35K reduced to $0 to clear title. The estate is massively insolvent, and the buyers are still hanging on since they are personally invested. I have been trying to get this re-approved since September and all I'm getting are requests to re-fax the same docs over and over, "lost paperwork" and no movement. Any ideas?? This is awful! 

Comment by Laura Marshall on February 4, 2014 at 3:00pm

Thank you Chad. I too have closed many FHA short sales, and there were no restrictions. I don't have my approval yet on the reverse mortgage, so I just wanted to make sure there were no surprises. Thank you so much for your quick response.

Comment by Chad Gelsinger on February 4, 2014 at 2:53pm

Laura, most reverse mortgages are guaranteed by HUD and I am not aware of any deed restrictions for HUD. We have closed many reverse mortgage Short Sales and none of them had restrictions. If for some reason the servicer has issued a deed restriction, it should be in the approval letter.

Be sure to have your title company/attorney review the chain of title for prior restrictions on the deed, as they would most likely still apply. Chad.

Comment by Laura Marshall on February 4, 2014 at 2:11pm

Are there any deed restrictions on a reverse mortgage short sale approval?

Comment by Chad Gelsinger on October 20, 2013 at 10:10am

Hi Nancy, most reverse mortgages require a minimum offer of 95% of the appraised value. If you have a buyer already, HUD should not reduce the offer price. Be advised, you must season a reverse mortgage for 60 days after either the owner is deceased or has moved out of the home. Make sure Guardian is aware the owner is deceased. HUD does allow the servicer to pay 6% on reverse mortgages with dual agent/agency. Chad. 

Comment by Nancy Shuff on October 20, 2013 at 8:25am

We just listed our first home with Reverse Mortgage Short Sale, Southern CA.  Within days we have one investor cash offer, and 2 other investors that want us to represent them, also as cash offers. 

Lien holder is Guardian.  I sent in 3rd party authorization but was told it takes about 20 days to be authorized on file. I have questions I want answers to before then.

I had the successor trustee call the lien holder to see what the FHA appraisal value was, which was completed soon after death of owner.  The appraised value is much less that what we listed the property. (which is valid through next month)   One of the investors said he just completed a reverse mortgage short sale, and the lien holder reduced his offer to their appraise value (without buyer requesting it)   Would HUD do this???  I would think that they would accept more from a cash buyer if offered.  I understand that a buyer using a FHA loan would want to just pay the appraised value so they don't have out of pocket difference in purchase price and appraised value. 

Also, does HUD accept full 6% commission if a dual agent? (Dual agency is permitted in CA.  Some lien holders cut commission for dual agency by 1-2%.  I asked Guardian Customer Service, but she didn't know what I was talking about.)

Any help would be appreciated.  I'll call the customer service tomorrow (no loss mitigation or short sale department) but at this time, I'm not expecting much help there.





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